Top 15 Red Sox Fans Evil Empire Comments

Ok so the Red Sox fans out they are quite humorous, I thank them for that. Their defense of the Red Sox spending hundreds of millions, and the comparison to the Yankees have been quite entertaining. Forget about Saturday Night Live, reading the Red Sox fans facebook comments is a great source of comedy. Better yet, there are no commercial breaks here either. Anyway here are some of the best/interesting comments (excuses) I found: 

The majority of these comments all came from the same guy. While I might not agree with everything he says, I would like to see the guy make a Red Sox Blog one day.  Continue reading


Boston Red Sox the new Evil Empire?

The Boston Red Sox have spent big this offseason, to a degree that they have been compared to the New York Yankees. Larry Lucchino does not like the comparison between the two clubs saying : “We are different. We run our clubs differently. There’s a commonality in our willingness to invest in sizable sums for baseball players, whether they be short-term additions or long-term development projects. So in that sense, we, the Dodgers, the Giants — a lot of successful clubs — are willing to pay the price and write checks.”

Analyzing this statement, he doesn’t really express what makes the clubs different. Perhaps it is denial, or maybe he is giving the Yankees a compliment and is referring to their two last place finishes in the past 3 years?

“It’s a question of pattern and consistency over time — that’s one way to distinguish. But we’re not going to not avail ourselves of what we think is a very good baseball opportunity because someone is going to compare us to the Yankees…We operate differently. They run their franchise. We run ours, ” said Lucchino.

So basically in a politician like fashion, Lucchino said that it is acceptable to spend money if it is a good opportunity to the Red Sox. Or in simple terms, he said that if they do it then it is fine and he doesn’t care what people call the Red Sox. Very interesting quotes from the man who termed the Yankees the Evil Empire. Again though he has failed to come up with a reason on what sets the teams apart in their strategy.

“But the pattern, the practice, the history are all very different.”

Unless he is alluding that the Yankees have never been in a situation where they needed to be jealous of the Red Sox, or to the Red Sox 3 world series in a 10 year span, then this is just another string of words that really don’t say anything.

“We’re very different animals, and I’m proud of that difference. I always cringe when people lump us together with other baseball teams,” Lucchino said in February 2014. “They are still … relying heavily on their inimitable old-fashioned Yankee style of high-priced, long-term free agents. I can’t say I wish them well, but I think we have taken a different approach.”

Umm Mr. Lucchino, I hope you know that the sentence I italicized is the very reason reporters are drawing these comparisons. You are not really helping your case, lucky you didn’t chose a career as a lawyer. Your team is up there with the Yankees for one of the oldest teams in the sport. If the Dodger ownership wasn’t looking to make splashy headlines, you still would have been paying unproductive players in Josh Beckett and Carl Crawford. What is the different approach? When your team won the World Series in 2013, you did it with aging veterans and free agents. I thought that was supposed to be the “Yankee way”.

“In player payroll, we’ve never been [at the top], at least in recent years, we’ve never been at the stratospheric levels of they and the Dodgers and some other teams.”

Maybe because you traded your contracts to the Dodgers and give up completely on a team midway through. Just a thought.

So his argument might have been pretty bad, or very good if you are a politician. However, it was the Red Sox fans themselves that were even worse at defending his claims. Here are a few facebook comments from the ESPN article:

Ben Wislon· Top Commenter 

“Like the yankees? When was the last time this Sox gave a 7+ year contract to a late 20s entering 30s free agent? When was the last time the yankees locked up a prospect for full team control during the players prime? The yankees overpay for aging free agents that had their prime with another team.”

Hmm So many. Let me see Jon Lackey got 6 years $83M at age 31, but with a vesting option at 500k if he missed a season because of an injury. So that would be a 7 year deal. Also the Carl Crawford deal of 7 years $142 million, that he signed heading into his age 29 season. Oh and Adrian Gonzalez got a 7 year $154 million at 29 after being traded to the team. Not sure how many more I should say, the bandwagon fan won’t know who these players are anyway.

Michael Stevens

“Hanley Rameriez (sp?) will be 36 when his contract is up. The Panda will be 34. This kid is 19 going on 20, so he will be 26 or so. The difference between the Red Sox and the Yankees is when the contract is up. When is A-Roid done? When will Sabathia? As much as I miss Lester, Lucchino stuck to his guns on age. That is the difference he is claiming and it is hard to argue. He does not deny that the Sox spend.”

Stuck on his guns to age, he signed Mike Napoli after 30. David Ortiz is 39, and look at the above posts and see the long term contracts the Red Sox gave to those guys. Oh and the Pedroia deal lasts until an old age too, he is signed until 37 and might already be declining. Yikes! Koji Uehara is 40, guess he read Koji’s age backwards then. Oh and what about Shane Victorino, might have been a 3 year deal but he was 32 when he signed. Just because the Red Sox let Jon Lester and Jacoby Ellsbury go doesn’t mean they don’t sign old players.”

Brock Janiak

“There IS a difference in how the teams spend

Redsox signings

Yoan Moncada- The 60mil DOES NOT go towards future payroll, its strickly out of the RS’s pockets. Its as if John Henry bought a new house. Moncada is subject to regular prospect payment (3 years league mininum + 3 years of arbitration)

Rusney Castillo- Only 26 years old, and is being payed only 12mil a year. Not a big commitment

Hanley Ramirez- Only a 4 year commitment”

Yeah it doesn’t count to payroll, but similar to the luxury tax the Red Sox were taxed heavily for signing Moncada. They have to pay the tax by June 15th I believe, that is going to be some hefty pay check. Not to mention he is likely starting at Single-A, and a few workouts might not mean he is the next big thing. Although I think he can be pretty good. Everything is strictly out of the teams pockets, not like they start a fundraiser to get money from the other 29 teams. Rusney Castillo is an unknown who signed to a 7 year deal, pretty ballsy. To say that 12 million is not a big commitment is just another indication of how much your team spends, when you suddenly think that is cheap. And only a 4 year commitment, it is to an injury prone player. I thought the Red Sox let Ellsbury go because of his injury problem, why are they signing a defensive liability to be injury prone. At a position where they have a surplus too, why pay “just” 22 million to Hanley.

I could add more comments but they all go this way pretty much. Kind of sad how they can’t come up with a valid point yet, maybe that means Lucchino is wrong?

Moncada and the Blown opportunity

ESPN has reported that the Red Sox are near a deal to signing Yoan Moncada to a $30M signing bonus. Now I tip my cap to the Red Sox for taking the initiative to improve their team for the long haul. In the same breath I would like to condemn the passiveness of the Yankees front office, most notably Hal Steinbrenner and Brian Cashman. It is hard to fathom how the Yankees were too cheap to acquire top notch challenge.

Perhaps I am making it a big deal, as it would have been a hefty price to acquire the 19 year old Cuban infielder. I understand that a 100% tax is a tough thing to accept. At the same time however, the Boston Red Sox accepted that and signed Moncada. Now I am not jealous that the Red Sox got Moncada, I am just perplexed at how the Yankees allowed the opportunity presented to them to slip away. Now we have high expectations in New York, and we haven’t had a number one draft pick since 1991. That is 24 years for anyone who hasn’t taken the calculator out yet. The Yankees opportunities to sign number 1 pick caliber players is very limited, so when one shows up in free agency there is no reason not to exploit that. The Red Sox even termed the Yankees “The Evil Empire” for their ability to outspend every other team. So it is not like they didn’t have the financial resources to make it happen.

The other big piece of this that really irks me is that the Yankees will be unable to sign any international free agent for over 300k (300,000) for the next two signing periods. In simple terms that means by whiffing on Moncada the Yankees will still be unable to compete for future young talent internationally. Another part about this is that the bonus can be paid in up to 3 years. Giving Moncada a little over $10M for the next 3 years in nothing in comparison to the other current contracts that  the Yankees are receiving no value out of. Just think about C.C., Texeira, A-Rod, just to name a few players that the Yankees are overpaying.

Just take a look at what was in Bleacher Report: “Yankees offered $25M with willingness to go to $27M which is same offered Jorge Soler who went to Cubs for $30M,” Sherman noted. He went on to compare Moncada’s reported deal to Alex Rodriguez’s remaining contract: “So with tax, Redsox will pay $63M to Moncada or about what Yankees owe A-Rod ($61M) for the next 3 yrs.”

I mean come one Cashman, you gave Chris Capuano a $5 million contract but couldn’t give Moncada the extra $5 million needed to sign him. Oh George please enlighten these poor business men on the utter failure that just occurred. Maybe they should be sent down to Single-A. Who knows maybe they will get to see Moncada again there…

Cashnumb at his next press conference.Here is Cashnumb at his next press conference. 
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